| A Conversation with Anne Bartlett
KNITTING is your first novel.
While you were raising your children, did you think about
becoming professional writer? Where did you find the inspiration
to move your life in this direction?
While I was an undergraduate it never occurred
to me that I might be ‘a writer’, though I did
write a short children’s novel that I hoped to get
published. When the children were small life was demanding
on several fronts and as far as writing went I had a strong
sense that ‘now is not the time’ but that I
would come back to it later. My first child was born when
I was 22 and I didn’t really feel old enough or experienced
enough to tackle anything too serious. When our last child
went to school I started to make deliberate writing choices.
Meanwhile I puddled about with a variety of freelance work.
You are a knitter and originally from
South Australia, where KNITTING takes place. How much of
the story reflects your own life?
I never know how to answer this. Nothing
and everything. It’s not autobiographical, but at
the same time I have drawn on the whole of my life experience.
I do knit and I have worked as a boutique knitter, I’m
part of a church community, and the story is set in Adelaide,
in a suburb where I used to live. The places are real places,
though I’ve moved Muggs Hill Road a couple of miles
to a more convenient location. (My apologies to the locals,
but I’ve always liked the name of that road and the
story needed it closer to the city!) While the novel is
not autobiographical, at the same time I think the different
characters probably do represent different parts of myself
which I was trying to get to co-operate rather than be in
conflict.
What does “women’s work”
mean to you? How did your interpretation of this term determine
the occupations of Sandra and Martha and their roles in
the story?
The novel was partly a subterranean attempt
to define women’s work and to explore the tension
I’ve always felt between different kinds of work.
There’s the Sandra type work, that you get paid for
and that you may or may not love, and there’s the
Martha work, that you do mainly for love and that rarely
earns money. And either or both can be very demanding. And
then there’s ‘life work’, which is another
whole ball game. Sometimes the paid work is a haven from
the other kinds of work. A lot of work often done by women
– care of family members, and many kinds of volunteer
work – has little status because it doesn’t
earn a bank balance. What’s more, many of the workers
are highly skilled, and work extremely hard, but the skills
are to do with relationships, rather than something that
can be defined by a diploma. It’s very important work
and it’s grossly undervalued. It’s a kind of
social cement.
You’ve said that you never intended
to write about knitting. What did you intend to write about?
The first piece I attempted to write was
simply an experiment, and never meant to begin a novel -
the scene where Martha throws the roses in the church. The
scene was clear in my mind, but when I began what came out
was all this mad knitting talk – a two page lump of
monologue, which I’ve since broken up for the hospital
scene. I tucked it away for a few years because I didn’t
know what to do with it. Then I read it at a workshop and
people liked it and encouraged me to expand on it. But Martha
couldn’t carry the action alone, and I began to realize
there was a back story, which in the end became the main
story. I also had about a page of the glass woman, also
written as an early experimental piece, so I introduced
the glass woman to the knitter, so to speak.
In KNITTING, Martha acknowledges that
knitting is revived by cycles of popularity, though it never
fades away completely. Knitting is certainly at the peak
of one of those cycles today. Why do we always return to
this craft?
It’s such a simple craft – sticks
and string – but it has endless possibilities, from
very simple to very complex. It’s not exclusive –
unless you’re attempting something very difficult
you can do it while talking with other people. It’s
practical – you get something useful in the end. (Though
I’ve got my doubts about knitted mobile phone covers!)
But I think it’s mainly in the joy of creating, the
choosing of patterns and colours, the anticipation of the
new item – it’s often a gift, an expression
of love. We all want to express creativity and knitting
offers guidelines without being too rigid. And it slows
us down. Some people find it quite meditative.
You’ve previously written about
Aboriginal history for children and recorded the life stories
of three Aboriginal elders on commission from the South
Australian government. Do you find yourself more drawn to
fiction or non-fiction?
I probably get the biggest immediate buzz
from fiction, but both kinds of writing are important and
satisfying. It depends on the story that needs to be told:
some stories are better told through nonfiction. Skills
learned in fiction are useful in nonfiction and vice versa.
I often write both simultaneously – it’s useful
to change genre/project when something needs to brew for
a while.
Sandra Fildes says that the knitting
exhibition and the study of textile history and women’s
work is her “making.” Is KNITTING your “making”?
Oh yes, that’s very true. Writing KNITTING
was such a joyous experience – the best writing fun
of my life, and the best thing I’ve made to date.
I’ve never worked so hard on anything or enjoyed it
so much. As for the word ‘making’ – I
first heard it used in this context by Kay Lawrence, a South
Australian tapestry weaver. ‘Making’ is well
understood by textile artists. But ‘making’
is also much broader than that. We ‘make’ dinner,
‘make’ family time, ‘make’ things
better. Making is part of being human.
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